Threat to Arts Picturehouse

Just seen the localsecrets article about the Regal applying for a music licence - apparently this would affect the Arts cinema above as the music would be heard in one of the auditoriums and thus make it unviable - not good! Much as I'd like to see more music venues, I'm not sure that the Regal is the best place. You may register your objection by emailing the coucil department concerned at env.health@cambridge.gov.uk BY TOMORROW.

I really don't understand why a Whetherspoons pub would apply for a music licence. The policy for that brand is no Jukebox let alone live music. Sound like bobbins to me...

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sorry, just stating the obvious

Hey tinaemery could you please tell us more about this . . .

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yeah surely the local arts cinema should have more say about this than a noisy, troublesome pub? i mean - does the council take this sort of common sense into account when looking at licenses?

Hi joosypigeon, I saw this on the localsecrets.com ezine that I rec'd today. It said: The Arts Picturehouse is currently under serious threat from planned licensing changes to The Regal pub situated below us. Changes to the pub's licence would mean live and recorded music playing in the pub, which will be heard in one of our auditoriums - whilst you are trying to watch a movie.We urge any patrons who feel the same way as we do to join us in our fight by objecting to any licence changes. You can register your complaint directly at the council by writing to: env.health@cambridge.gov.uk Any complaints need to be made by Friday 3rd February 2006. For further information you can contact us directly via cambridge@picturehouses.co.uk or by calling the Picturehouse management on 01223 50 44 44.

"The applicant has to fix a notice to the premises for 28 consecutive days and advertise the application in the local press Public Notices section."
If it's the guys from The Picturehouse posting it must be true. Just doesn't make any sense, they don't play music in there as part of policy, unless there wanting to sell and want a licence in place to make the price better.

Guide to objecting to Licence Applications here peeps...
http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/content/ehws/licensing/licence-object....

Don't want to sound cynical or negative or anything, but why do i get the feeling that Wetherspoon's has a lot of money they can throw in certain 'directions' to ensure that they get whatever they want?
Anyone with half a brain knows that this is a shit idea, but something tells me they'll get it.
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I've just e-mailed them - regal bastards

I bet it's for fucking karoake.

Well I just e-mail the council for a copy of the licence application notice. Will host it and post it when i get it

Here is what I am thinking of emailing.
What do you think?

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Dear Sir,

I wish to raise an objection to the change in The Regal public house licensing that would enable it to play recorded and live music.
The Regal is situated under The Arts Picturehouse, a cinema unique in Cambridge for the depth and breath of the films it screens. If the Regal were to play music, the noise would leak into the Arts Cinemas auditoriums, making its operation impractical.
This would not only have profound local consequence, as there are no other Cambridge based cinemas that screen films of the quality screened at the Arts Cinema. But would be detrimental to Cambridge?s international reputations as a centre of arts and culture, as it would spell the end of The Cambridge Film Festival. A film festival of international standing.

Thanks You.

Actually Hairy shouldn't the CEN's advert dept have a copy for the paper?

Add something about you being a user of the cinema. It makes you an interested party proper

erm, i'm in the middle of writing a snotty email, but what i'm seeing from the hideously over-beurocratic council form is that you fill in this form:

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=2...

as a 'a person involved in a business in the vicinity of the premesis' (second tickbox at the top of the PDF)

the address of the picturehouse cinema is: 38 - 39 St Andrew's Street, Cambridge CB2 3AR (for the box below)

it says you can email the form (even thoguh it isn't editable) so i think i'm going to write an email as if i've filled it in. e.g. "name of body i represent: ii) a person involved in a business in the vicinity of the premesis; name of premises you are makinga representation about: arts picturehouse;" etc.

its awkwward, but you just know they'll ignore complaints unless they're properly filled in forms. such bullshit.

Your email to Regal looks great and it would be great to send it to CEN...

as a 'a person involved in a business in the vicinity of the premesis'

Does it really spell premises like that on the form?

because if so, we're already doomed.

Joosey just dont send it with ....Thanks you ... Thank you is better
If there was a petition I would deffiantly sign it.

:P

OK what about this . . .

Dear Sir,

As a long term resident of Cambridge, I wish to raise an objection to the change in The Regal public house licensing that would enable it to play recorded and live music.
The Regal is situated under The Arts Picturehouse, a cinema unique in Cambridge for the depth, breath and quality of the films it screens. If the Regal were to play music, the noise would leak into the Arts Cinemas auditoriums, making its operation impractical. This would not only have profound local consequence, as there are no other Cambridge based cinemas that screen films of the quality screened at the Arts Cinema. But would be detrimental to Cambridge?s international reputations as a centre of arts and culture, as it would spell the end of The Cambridge Film Festival. A film festival of international standing.

It seems a shame to damage Cambridge?s international standing to this degree, when there are already very many public houses and venues in Cambridge in which recorded and live music and be enjoyed.

Thanks You.

removing the s in 'Thanks' :)

and change the "and" in live music and be enjoyed to can it will probably sound better !

did you mean depth, BREADTH and quality...?

yes I did :)

this is the sort of thing a spell checker doesnt pick up on . . .

Dear Sir/Madam,

I have just received information that suggests the wetherspoons' Regal pub has applied for a music license. If this application is even seriously being considered, I would like to register a complaint against it.

Firstly, the Regal is obviously a well-known trouble-spot, and any additional allowances that the venue is given which would encourage its patrons to become more 'rowdy' and/or effectively over-use their new late license is likely to increase the area's standing as a no-go area for many concerned locals in the evenings and weekends. The Wetherspoons' chain is not a musical one by reputation, and so unless this one-off is being allowed for the purpose of reducing the trouble in this particular venue (which I highly doubt), then we could only expect the music to excacerbate the situation.

Secondly, the noise pollution from the music would adversely affect the other businesses in the area - especially the Arts Picturehouse Cinema, one of whose auditoriums would be rendered unusable by the license. With the cinema's standing as a hub for local arts and culture, this crippling of the auditorium could have a serious effect on the Cambridge Film Festival - one the city's larger tourist attractions.

we hope you take into consideration blah blah blah.

recorded and live music and be enjoyed.

recorded and live music can be enjoyed?

Looks really good JP, make sure you fill in the form as well!

Thanks for helping with my rubbish writting evereyone.

What is this form QueenBlag ?

OK this would seem to be it from me . . .

Dear Sir,

As a long term resident of Cambridge, I wish to raise an objection to the change in The Regal public house licensing that would enable it to play recorded and live music.
The Regal is situated under The Arts Picturehouse, a cinema unique in Cambridge for the depth, breadth and quality of the films it screens. If the Regal were to play music, the noise would leak into the Arts Cinemas auditoriums, making its operation impractical. This would not only have profound local consequence, as there are no other Cambridge based cinemas that screen films of the quality screened at the Arts Cinema. But would be detrimental to Cambridge?s international reputations as a centre of arts and culture, as it would spell the end of The Cambridge Film Festival. A film festival of international standing.

It seems a shame to damage Cambridge?s international standing to this degree, when there are already very many public houses and venues in Cambridge in which recorded and live music can be enjoyed.

Please take this email as an official registered complaint/objection.

Thank you
Simon Mullen

http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=2...

Gramsci posted it but it's linked in that guide to opposing a licence application i posted earlier. I'm trying to sneak it on the works scanner to e-mail it as we speak.

I would be really really sad if this were to happen. I love the arts picturehouse. It's fab for the kind of films that I love- especially foreign language ones.

Let's do something about this guys. I am happy to help out in any way, shape or form, even if it is just to write an email and send in a form.

Copyediting alert ...

> As a long term resident of Cambridge, I wish to raise an objection to the change in The
> Regal public house licensing that would enable it to play recorded and live music.

long-term

> The Regal is situated under The Arts Picturehouse, a cinema unique in Cambridge for the
> depth, breath and quality of the films it screens.

breadth, as previously noted

> If the Regal were to play music, the noise would leak into the Arts Cinemas auditoriums,

Cinema's

> making its operation impractical. This would not only have profound local consequence, as

consequences (presumably)

> there are no other Cambridge based cinemas that screen films of the quality screened at

Cambridge-based (or even "cinemas in Cambridge")

> that

which, preferably

> the Arts Cinema.

Arts Picturehouse is its title, as you state earlier; if describing it generically as an arts cinema, use lower case.

> But would be detrimental to Cambridge?s international reputations as a centre of arts and

reputation (presumably)

> culture, as it would spell the end of The Cambridge Film Festival. A film festival of
> international standing.

I'd say we don't know it would spell the end of the Cambridge Film Festival. It would threaten the festival, so perhaps it's more objective to say that?

Also, a comma to connect the two statements would be better, e.g.: "Festival, a festival
of ..."

> It seems a shame to damage Cambridge?s international standing to this degree, when

This waters down your opinion, I'd suggest. Surely you believe it IS a shame, not that it merely SEEMS a shame. Also, do you mean to imply that it is OK to damage Cambridge's international standing to some degree, but not to this particular degree? Maybe it is better to say something like this:

It would be a shame if The Regal's application was granted, given the damage it could
cause to Cambridge's international reputation as a centre of arts and culture, particularly
when there are already many ...

I'll also write a letter.

This has just been posted to cam.misc, and apparently originates from the Arts Picturehouse:

> The Arts Picturehouse is currently under serious threat from planned licensing
> changes to The Regal pub situated below us. Changes to the pub's licence would
> mean live and recorded music playing in the pub, which will be heard in one of
> our auditoriums - whilst you are trying to watch a movie. We urge any patrons who
> feel the same way as we do to join us in our fight by objecting to any licence
> changes. You can register your complaint directly at the council by writing to
> env.health@cambridge.gov.uk.
> Any complaints need to be made by Friday 3rd February 2006. For further information
> you can contact us directly via cambridge@picturehouses.co.uk or by calling the
> Picturehouse management on 01223 50 44 44.

Oops, that original's already been posted by tinaemery. Sorry.

Thanks Mr strangelights . . . Ive sent my email now for better or worse.
Also Ive been mailing ALL my cambridge friends about this . . .

thanks for cc-ing me joosy, hopefully it'll work XXXX

Was there any attempt by the previous Arts Cinema to stop the club that was opened across the way from it? What was the councils position on that one? That had problems in its final years with evening shows being marred by beats from the Fez Club - seems like the same situation.

Ive had such good times at The Arts . . .Cafe Afrikas gone . . . we cant let it happen to The Arts.

The story as I heard it is - and this is all just from the nightclub grapevine, so some or all may be wrong and I've not been to verify:

* The Regal is going to become a "Lloyds". For those unaware, a "Lloyds" is like "The Regal" with flashy lights, loud music (i.e RnB) and DJ. (This in effect, combined with the change in license, will make it one of the largest nightclubs on the UK. Certain large clubs are, naturally, bricking it.)
* They've already had the dancefloor installed and already began playing music until a friendly licensing officer informed them they don't have the license, hence the application.

A fucking huge nightclub playing RnB every night all week while a DJ mouths off over the top is *exactly* what historic Regent Street needs if you ask me...

Hey Mr fatpoppadaddys . . . have you mailed in your objection?

I've sent a mail to env.health.

Dear Sir or Madam,

I understand that the Arts Picturehouse (38-39 St. Andrew's Street,
Cambridge) is concerned about a proposed change to the licence held by
The Regal, which is situated beneath it. The cinema's management
believe the change will result in a noise nuisance for the cinema's
customers.

I share the cinema's concerns and ask you to ensure that any changes
to The Regal's licence guarantee no nuisance at the cinema.

Thank you,

So basically Ballare but extremely cheap, I think I'd be bricking it as well if i was them. I don't know what the Councilors round here are like, but it's anything like Lincolnshire CC they'll be back handers flying around like nobody's business.

There is a Lloyds in Northampton ....Its a real shitehole ....this is bad really bad !

they'll be back handers flying around like nobody's business.

Exactly what i said. And think.

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I think it would be worth sending objections on this to the market ward councillors, it's their ward that the Regal falls into. And your own councillors as well. The link is here for market and the general Councillors link will take you back to the ward listings. I've just emailed mine to them all - excuse the pun but worth making a lot of noise about this.
http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/ccm/navigation/about-the-council/councillo...

The head of environmental health at the council is Roger Coey. His email is roger.coey@cambridge.gov.uk

This reminds me of the Pizza Hut on Mill Road - it's not a change of use so presumably the tenant only has to apply for music licence? I wondered what CAMRA thought about loosing the pub, the police and who actually owns the building, it's very close to the colleges (Downing?)

"The applicant has to fix a notice to the premises for 28 consecutive days and advertise the application in the local press Public Notices section."

How long has Satanspoons had notice up for, and where?

> Oh FP, is the friday night at Fez on of yours

Nope, nothing to do with us.

Still waiting on the Council to send me the Public Notice, that'll have a date on it.

Ive found something on this issue on the Arts website . . . but its not that prominent.
Follow the link and scroll down to SUPPORT THE PICTUREHOUSE
http://www.picturehouses.org.uk/static/newsletter/latest/camb.html

also, just walked past the regal - and it is listed as a 'lloyds no.1' pub now. worryinnnng...

Nice one on bringing this to people's attention Tina. Presumably env health, although they do have to do with licences, are interested in complaints re noise pollution as in resident rather than business, or is that incorrect? Would there be another level of planning that this application has to go through (surely more than one bit of Cam council needs a bung...) at which more visible (and prepared) support for pichouse could go ahead?

I can certainly see the point in contacting local councillors etc, but how come this all came to be noticed so late in the day? A friend of mine's Dad works as a projectionist and she didn't know, and one of our students works at the picturehouse and came in yesterday but didn't mention it!

There is a licencing board that gets called once in a blue moon, they here applications from the propective licencee, then the motions against, they deliberate a bit, ask some stupid question and then they decide if you can have a licence. Some stupid plonker was silly enough to give me a licence to sell alcohol once. There's no telling what they'll decide.

Is it open to the public when they sit?

I think so, but you can't protest or anything, it's similar to a magistrates court

>I think so, but you can't protest or anything, it's similar to a magistrates court
Its still impressive if a lot of people turn up and sit in the back.

Yep, someone was reckless enough to give me a booze licence once aswell! Is that it though? Just standard wednesday licence day? No artsy fartsy bit of council we can appeal to?

Does the picturehouse rent from Satanspoons? Presumably pichouse could quite rightly argue that it will affect their business. Much as I'm up for more music venues, not at the expense of the Arts pichouse, especially after all the hullaballoo of losing the arts cinema. And who the hell would play there? Chickenwire anyone?

Hurrah, I Got Hullaballoo into a post

I suppose so, There was nobody there apart from other pub owners and stuff when I was applying. You'd have to find out when then next licencing session is and turn up on mass. It'll be 10am on a Tuesday or something equally annoying for 9-5er's.

:)

Is it Tuesdays now? Must admit I'm a bit out of touch except on GFP side of bar now

Nice pic JP!

I have no idea, in Stamford it was the 3rd Thursday every month or something. Might be completely different here.

Dear Ms Davis

I confirm a notice detailing an application to vary the premises licence for The Regal was published in the Cambridge Evening News on 9th January 2006. Please find below details of the application:

- to provide regulated entertainment (live music, recorded music and
films) from 07:00 to 04:00 Mon - Sun.

The cut off date for representations for this application is 3rd February 2006.

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Yours sincerely

Debbie Stoker
Licensing Assistant
Cambridge City Council

>07:00 to 04:00 Mon - Sun.

what.the.fuck

it's only 3 hours shy of the full day. Bastards

Fuck, that is well over the top...

I wonder what Wspoons rep is like at the mo, how likely they are to get all of what they asked for. What with ambulances having been renamed wetherspoon wagons on Hills Rd. Is there any housing/flats around there at all, or are they all linked to businesses?

This just gets worse! I cannot believe they have put in a proposal to use the Regal for 21 hours a day, every day!! And I also wanted to say thanks for everyone responding to the posting, I had hoped that someone would take notice...

I know that at least four of my friend have mailed objections . . . as theyve CCed me.

WAN is fantastic. I have sent off emails as well. I love the picturehouse, can't imagine cambridge without it. even though I'm not there anymore... *sob* So the deadline for objectiing is tomorrow? hmm....

I knew they were putting in a dance floor and speakers but didnt twig how it would effect the picture house above.
We love seeing films there and to loose it would be a huge blow for the city centre.
I will definetly lodge a complaint but I fear it may be in vain going on the fact the Regal has already gone ahead with the building work. They must be confident there appliation will be sucessfull.

In that case, in what way could we use the freedom of information act to embarrass the council?

Are the Regal playing music already? It's just occurred to me that when I went to see Hidden the other night (French film, no soundtrack, long periods of no dialogue) I could hear music spilling from somewhere. I assumed it was from some louder film in one of the other auditoria (which seemed a little shoddy), but if it wasn't, surely there's grounds to complain that the Regal has broken the terms of its existing license by playing music in anticipation of receiving an alteration.

Just got this email . . .

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To all the Arts Picturehouse supporters,
My apologies for the brief group email but we have been overwhelmed by the responses that have come in. I did want to reply to each email personally but with the objection deadline tomorrow my staff and I are running out of time and we still have much work to do.
Please accept my gracious thanks for your kind support. I have recently heard that the council had received over 400 objections since midday today. This is a fantastic result but we still need as much public awareness of the problem as possible. So please, where possible mention this very serious issue to as many people as you can. My team and I are doing everything we can to stop this from happening.
Once again, thank you for your support.
Kind Regards
Tony Stevens
General Manager
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Arts Picturehouse
38-39 St. Andrew's St,
Cambridge,
CB2 3AR
www.picturehouses.co.uk
T: 01223 578 939
F: 01223 578 937

I'm thinking that maybe a picketing of the Guildhall is in order sometime over the next few days, just to take the issue right back to their doorstep..?

Possibly flyering/petitioning outside The Regal too..?

If you're on the pavement in front of the building, there's nothing the venue can do to stop you, as you're not actually on the premises.

The CEN should definitely be told about this too, to get this story up in the local press.
We need to up the pressure on these guys.

We can't let these corporate hoolies get away with what they're trying to do after all.

What say all here?

If someone wants to write/send me some blurb, I'll knock up a flyer in Photoshop and post it on Indymedia Cambridge, and email it to anyone who wants a copy for printing and handing out or displaying in their windows.

I've posted an article to Indymedia Cambridge

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/cambridge/2006/02/332851.html

Please do add flyers and comments there :)

A collaeague of mine received the following email from the Arts:

Thanks for all your support. I don't know if you would consider doing this
>or someone you know but the TV news programme Look East will be here
>tomorrow between 11.30 & 12.30 doing a story and they want to interview
>Picturehouse cinema-goers.
>If you might be interested or know of anyone who is a patron of the cinema
>then please contact me directly on 01223 578 939.
>regards
>Tony

She cannot do it but can any of you help please?

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I HAD been fairly unconcerned by this, presuming that no one in their right mind would grant such an unbelievably inappropriate licence but having spoken to my Dad who works at the cinema I now realise there's a serious chance it'll go through. Other than rattle off an email to the right person & alert all my friends to do likewise then I'm not sure what to do. I've been frantically trying to get hold of a good friend who's a council press officer to find out EXACTLY when the decision will be made but no joy :-(

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If the licence is granted is there anyway we could use the freedom of information act to see what logic they used to prioritise a jukebox above the internationally renowned Cambridge film festival?

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Apart from the shite news about the regal / lloyds thing, reading this thread cheered me up, WAN... Communication, organisation and action!

JP... Found this, http://www.tncrimlaw.com/foia_indx.html
In theory everything the city / council council does should be covered, as they're a public body. Don't know, never made a request myself. I'll ask on the CAN bods to see if anyone knows any better.

Planning in this town is messed up, I've seen what little soul this place has got being squeezed out by money and power. Luxury apartments and retail boxes, pah!

Thanks Mr T.

I havent used the freedom of information act yet . . . maybe I should

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So far as potential venues for a club, well, there's a couple of very big empty units on the Newmarket Road Shopping site (where PC World etc. are).
After all, why should the corporations have it all?

Good to see the issue raised on Look East just now and highlight this story - let's hope it can help resolve the problem...

Heads up... Just got this from someone involved with CAN...

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Alright Andy,

I'ver done a bit of FoI Act stuff for CAAT. we just wrote a letter stating
'this is an open government request for information under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000' and then asked for the informaiton. I don't know think
that bit is necessary any more and any request for information from a public
body is treated as a FoI request. some institutions now have a FoI
departments to deal with requests.
They have to reply within 28 days. They can charge for photocopying and
postage but they cannot charge for admin unless it comes to over £500. The
act encourages them to waive photocopying fees under £10 - we've never had
to pay for anything. If they refuse to give you the information then you
have to join the queue to have the case reviewed by the Information
Commissioner (could take years).
hope this is some help.

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I was thinking, couldn't the arts just blast out some soundtrack to an artsy french film so loud that it scares off the lot from downstairs... Oh texas chainsaw massacre on loop?

Ok, it made it into the CEN, and my Mum got a letter in, hurrah! I didn't realise the sound was already affecting one screen. So they'll only have jazz groups down there... ahem

I wonder what the next move is, does anyone know if there's a next stage at which complaints can be raised?

CEN piece . . .
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/city/2006/02/04/76db754f-2e9a-407...

Steve Strange, The Regal's manager, was due to meet council officials yesterday
--- CEN

Surly not the one and only Steve Strange!!!!

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>Anyone know the final tally of objections raised?

No.

Does anyone know how the change of licencing request will proceed?

nope, but when i went to the cinema on saturday (and yes, the music was audible) they were also getting everyone to sign a petition as they left the screens.

i'm still very cynical about whether it'll do any good, esp as the equipment has already been put in place.

>Anyone know the final tally of objections raised?

A councillor on cam.misc stated that over 1400 representations had been made to the council.

"I will definetly lodge a complaint but I fear it may be in vain going on the fact the Regal has already gone ahead with the building work. They must be confident there appliation will be sucessfull."

I shouldn't take the fact that The Regal already has the building work done as a bad indication. I work within the planning process quite a bit and my clients are forever having to stop developments (and in some cases pull entire buildings down) for minor infringements of planning.

How can this shit happen?

We at one time dont have enough music venues(some may argue that we still dont), and the monkeys at cambridge city council think that a good place to have it is in an already souless lifeless venue such as the regal which is a fucking dive, At the cost of the towns best cinema, and one of only a few places where interesting things can be seen.

The councilors must all be real culture dodgers if they think this was a good idea to pass.

Bloody monkeys, all of them.

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I just mailed the Arts cinema ...
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Dear Arts Cinema

I and my friends are very concerned about the noise pollution that the proposed changes to Regals licensing could cause.
Is there anything that we could do to help as regular Arts cinema goer?

The Arts cinema and the Cambridge Film Festival are too good to lose for a chav jukebox.

Thanks
Simon Mullen

I shouldn't take the fact that The Regal already has the building work done as a bad indication. I work within the planning process quite a bit and my clients are forever having to stop developments (and in some cases pull entire buildings down) for minor infringements of planning.

Let's REALLY hope so.

"Chav jukebox" - Best description yet :-)

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And good day to you Sir!

I like the way the spoons spokesman says it will be for 'jazz groups'. I can certainly see that the current clientele would appreciate a nice bit off jazz now and then. Well, talc or magazine perhaps

Hi,
For those of you interested, I received an email from the Manager at the Arts cinema to say thanks to all for the support in objecting to The Regal?s licence change. The Council has received over 1400 objections to the proposed licence change which is far greater than they ever expected. The date for the hearing (Monday 20 February) has now been set by the Council and they will let everyone know the outcome as soon as they hear. Keep your fingers crossed....

legend, good stuff tina.

Got a letter just now confirming the registration of my objects and tell me when the hearing is. Looks like the Police and the Environmental Agency have received and made complaints as they are the key opposition. The hearing is at the Guildhall on the 20th Feb at 10am. And i have a groovy form the fill out asking who i want to represent my views at the meeting.

has anyone heard anything more about this? did anyone make the hearing on monday? Come to that, can anyone fill me in on whats happening to the Flying Pig campaign as well. Did the petition work or are they still under threat?

just curious...

There's a thread further down discussing developments for the picturehouse... looks like they may have got the music licence, but there's soundproofing to be done. The Flying Pig survived - hurrah! But they will be knocking down everything within a 50 mile radius around it

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