The Police Harass Me Again - New Vid

Here we go again. Why don't they just leave me alone, they would be better off.

The Police State Is Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4R0ZLpjNg

For goodness sake. They asked why you were filming them, then had a civil conversation with you. Openly filming people will generally provoke a reaction from those being filmed, even if it's just one of curiosity.

What a loser, seriously you must have a pretty care free life, if you feel the need to film a copper driving a car.

These guys are working so that your garden and house in which you film, are kept safe.... have some respect!

No wonder the country is going down the pan with people like you.

GROW UP!

actually he is makinga serious point about the survailance society........ but to be honest this isn't any way to conduct an argument it just makes him look like a massive tit

.... MASSIVE tit

....and the bit about the masonic symbols doesn't help the argument either

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12 years of doing that. Christ, you must be dull!

Here, why not add a bit of excitement to what you obviously feel to be some sort of calling and conduct your particular brand of "documentary making" in a proper "police state"? Failing that, try New York, their officers would just have a ball with someone like you.

Good idea Mr Grey. Maybe Darren can start off in North Korea filming these mentalists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqlEtjYwNYk&mode=related&search=

ITS WOT DA UNIFAWM WEPWESENTS! IT'S FWEEMASONWY!

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/15/1522.asp

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1961.asp

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2715792117793977759&

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/15/1522.asp

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1961.asp

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2715792117793977759&

Yes, some members of the police force, no matter what country you're in, can be complete fuckwads abusing their position, but you get them in any job. I'd say the majority of the police, like a majority of people generally, are decent people getting on with their job.

With the original post, there's some kind of a confused point about CCTV filming and police states, made utterly null and void by the fact that an individual person filming a person is a very different thing to a bank of hundreds of CCTV screens.

"And self-aggrandisement was barring sentiment.
That's assuming that there was ever any."

Pollard: If you want people to go 'ooh, look at him, he's dead rebellious and antiestablishment and stuff' why not get a piercing or tattoo. Or a Cradle of Filth T-Shirt. If you want to some good, this ain't helping.

The Spanish for CCTV is 'Videovigilancia', which is a way cool word.

I shall make a concerted effort to introduce videovigilancia (along with lisp, for extra attempt at authenticity) into at least one conversation when we're in Spain next month. I shall expect a prize.

"actually he is makinga serious point about the survailance society........"

Indeed I am. It seems to go over most peoples heads the fact that they enforce things on us, without our consent and if we apply the same things back on them they get the right hump about it. The police deserve to be filmed. They suspect everone of anything, I suspect them of everything.

"....and the bit about the masonic symbols doesn't help the argument either"

Don't take my word for it, check these out and do your own thinking:

Quote:
"Among the members of these (freemasonic) lodges will be almost all the agents of international and national police since their service is for us irreplaceable in respect that the Police is in the position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate (those who challenge the brotherhood), but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents etc."

http://www.medusafile.com/freemasons.htm

"Martin Short, author of Inside the Brotherhood, told the Home Affairs Select Committee how two Asian businessmen stumbled on a masonic dinner at a hotel and were prosecuted on trumped up charges of assaulting police officers.

He said it later became apparent that the police officers were lodge members as was the investigating officer, a senior official in the Crown Prosecution Service and the hotel manager. A presumably non-masonic jury acquitted the businessmen.

Two years ago the select committee said: "We believe that nothing so much undermines public confidence in public institutions as the knowledge that some public servants are members of a secret society, one of whose aims is mutual self-advancement."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/57463.stm

"Freemasons the reason police are still racist

Former Flying Squad commander John O'Connor claimed today that freemasons still wield massive power within high ranks and that black people, who do not join the secretive groups, lose out in the power struggle."

http://www.blink.org.uk/print.asp?key=5198

This is all so true and very serious: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...eemasons&meta=

The Police are loyal to the masons, not the public. They swear an oath that they will put the masons first, even before their own family. The german nazi party were masons, Hitler, the blooby lot. Lenin, Stalin and all the commie leaders, all freemasons. I wonder why. But don't take my word for it, do your own thinking.

It's easy to shoot the messinger than it is the message.

what a lot of toss.

Toss indeed.

I'm a freemason (or at least I was before I became an athiest) and it's a glorified old men's club with a bit of a predaliciton for King Solomon's Temple. I don't recall meeting any member of the police when I was there. There are freemasons lodges in every small town and village in the country and it's not some secretive, elitest society where people are plotting to take over the world... it's just a bit of a showy, theatrical tradition and a chance for middle-aged men to meet up and have a pint afterwards.

Though in saying that, if I ever get pulled over for speeding I may chance a masonic handshake ;)

a chance for middle-aged men to meet up and have a pint afterwards.

Aren't there pubs for that sort of thing?

I think going off to "a very important and mysterious masonic meeting" has more chance of getting past the wife than "I'm going to the pub with my mates."

I of course describe this from the point of view of a middle-aged man, of which most lodges consist. I only joined because I was invited and wanted to see how close to reality all the Monty Python sketches about freemasonary were.

I'll make you show me the handshake one day...

That was one of my favourite Python sketches - brilliant example of John Cleese doing funny anger.

I once had the bizarre experience of having a meeting with Westlife (for legal reasons, honestly) at the Freemason's Grand Hall in London where they were shooting a video. It's a hugely impressive building but there is a definitely weird atmsophere.

Whatever....

I like CCTV -

1. Stopped me getting the crap beaten out of me in Brighton one night.
2. Stopped the drunks on mill road being a pain up by Spar whilst it was there.

Mind you - when I worked at a uni we used to go in the security room at night and watch people on the IR cameras... guess thats abuse, but not really cause it was fun...

and sorry - but your first quote is from:

http://www.medusafile.com/freemasons.htm

which has one the main page "Preliminary reading for conspiracy theory"

yes - everything on the internet is true..

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Freemasonary! Reptilians!

Sounds like someones been searching sites like www.abovetopsecret.com etc..

Whilst there is a ton of freemasonary type symbolism all over the place and many would agree with the big brother argument, you just went about it in the most irratating way.

They pulled over and asked what you were doing, which is fair enough when confronted with a shifty looking bloke and a cam corder in the middle of the night, and all you did was antagonise them, not the otherway around.

You really ended up sounding like an idiot...you want to do something abit racey then get your arse out on a friday night and video record them arresting people etc...not from the comfort of your own lawn. ha ha

Funny thing is our police force on the whole are some of the most polite bunch of law enforcement chaps n chapess's in the world and if you doubted that your video just proved it!

In some countries you would be wearing your digicam as a thong right now.

hey pob74 and MJallstar have a fucking word with yourselves mates . Darren is doing a fine thing by filming the police .he has done nothing illegal and is in fact performing a public duty to everyone including the police .
Q/ what the fuck are the police even giving Dareen shit for .
A/because they don't want the common man TO QUESTION THEIR AUTHORITY.
dont you think that that's quite upsetting - i do
.good on you Darren i owe you a pint
hey Darren you seem like the good sort . if you are ever down Cambridge way ,let me know and i shall put you up for a few of days .

Theres definately alot to be said for freemasonary though...and im not talking about an invite to a drunken lodge party and listening to old timers stories over a bottle of red wine....but there is alot to it, i cant be arsed to go into it here as its rather boring, but yesh....there out there running the world n stuff. You mark my words...skull n bones...

and another thing -thandor oh conqueror off daffodils they are being intimidating by questioning Darren in they`r -you'd better answer our questions -way
plus Strawberry-ozzy Darren is masking a very val;id point about the police wearing masonic uniforms whilst patrolling our streets !! don't you think these things should be questioned ???

of course they should be questioned..question away...

if you want to show the police up in some way the last thing you want to do is antagonise them, if they act politely like they did in your vid, disregard the footage and start again, because your the one that looks bad in that video not them, that i am afraid would be the way the majority of peopel would see it.

you have to be a lot more cunning dude...and after 12 years your obviously not!

go and stand outside a police station and film for hours, not that i am encouraging you to do this, but it would be more of a direct parralell to the way we live our lives on camera.

if approached DO NOT bang on about freemasonry and hidden symbolism...its makes you look like a bag full of nutjobs.

excuse spelling...cannot be arsed today!!

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You really ended up sounding like an idiot...you want to do something abit racey then get your arse out on a friday night and video record them arresting people etc...not from the comfort of your own lawn. ha ha

He'd end up getting saved by the police from the pissed up chavs wanting to fight him for filming them. And that would ruin the video. :D

wait there a second ,WATCH THE FILM AGAIN bloody English people .
i don't think that for one moment that Darren is going round filming every copper he meets .from seeing his other films i take it that Darren lives in Manchester and that his particular road has a lot of police activity and Darren simply grabs his video and films them .i dare say he films lots of people as he points out he has been a documentary film maker for 12 years.
why don't they like it ?
why question Darren's right to film ??
why don`t they stop him ???
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A1/because they are human and know one likes being filmed by a stranger ,yet they do it to us everyday and every demo
A2/because these people believe they are above the law . thinking themselves more imprtatant than us
A3/because they find out that Darren is not breaking any laws .

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*BRM drops the beat*

Threadjack.

Hey Thandor, I only just noticed that PM you sent me as that's not my main email account. Re: what you said, I'm exactly the same ;)

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Indeed I am. It seems to go over most peoples heads the fact that they enforce things on us, without our consent and if we apply the same things back on them they get the right hump about it. The police deserve to be filmed. They suspect everone of anything, I suspect them of everything.

The fact that they were intrigued (I wouldn't say got the hump, they were fairly polite about it) as to why you were filming them is not just a police thing, and it's very different to CCTV. There is a very clear idea about what the CCTV on our streets is ideally supposed to do. Even though there's possibility for abuse, we all agree that CCTV is ostensibly there to prevent and monitor crime, whereas an individual intently filming someone who they don't know, it raises questions as to why. I'd say an individual intently filming someone is a greater invasion of that person's privacy than hundreds or thousands of CCTV monitors being watched for any funny business going on.

I'm not a member of the police force, but I'd probably ask you what you were up to if you were filming me as I was going about my daily business, too.

LOL

turn up at every bloody demo and march going and film away, ask the police in the 'wall' questions, dig deep, but for all they know you could have been some weirdo stalker pedo type and they asked you what the hell you were doing, and when you told em, you sounded like a paranoid squirals turd. nutty.

ha ha to be honest i couldnt give a shite and wonder why im even bothering to type!!!! but i did so...[clicks 'publish reply']

"Indeed I am. It seems to go over most peoples heads the fact that they enforce things on us, without our consent and if we apply the same things back on them they get the right hump about it. The police deserve to be filmed. They suspect everone of anything, I suspect them of everything."

Yes the police do go to greater lengths than the average joe to observe us as members of the public because that's what we pay them for.
It's their job, their responsibility, the duty that we expect them to fulfill.

Remember, it would most likely be a police officer coming to your assistance in the event that, having witnessed you standing about the street randomly filming passers-by, a member of the public mistakenly thinks you're surreptitiously shooting video of their kiddies and decides to dispense a spot of non-masonic justice of their own upon you.

"Theres definately alot to be said for freemasonary though...and im not talking about an invite to a drunken lodge party and listening to old timers stories over a bottle of red wine....but there is alot to it, i cant be arsed to go into it here as its rather boring, but yesh....there out there running the world n stuff. You mark my words...skull n bones..."

You think the Masons are scary? Pah, they're mere amateurs.
I've known people who've gotten into Amway.

No contest. :-) ;-)

"Darren is masking a very val;id point about the police wearing masonic uniforms whilst patrolling our streets !! don't you think these things should be questioned ???"

Errr, not particularly bothered about questioning them, no.
For the same reason I don't waste time and effort researching the possibility of secret affiliations (masonic or otherwise) involving any of the other emergency services. Certainly not when I'd expect them to risk their own personal safety in order to secure my own.

You see, I'd much rather judge the police by their current conduct (especially toward me personally) rather than judge them based upon what traditional symbols may or may not adorn their uniform.
As for the police in the clip intimidating Darren - get real. Anyone capable of being intimidated by be being spoken to in the polite yet firm-handed manner that they employed really shouldn't be allowed of the house. For their own good.

Also, it's not especially intimidating when the male police officer quite clearly has a "what's this joker doing?" grin on his face for most of the conversation. Also, "We'd just like to know why you're filming us. We don't have a problem with it..." isn't really an intimidating "stop filming us you scum" statement.

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i can understand the chaps point, however to claim he was intimidated by them he is being a bit over the top.

you were clearly setting yourself up to questioned by them, so i wouldnt be suprised when they politley asked you what you were doing.

and secondly, i believe those two coppers were very polite and good natured about the whole affair, they didnt get aggressive, they didnt even leave the car to question you, hardly intimidating.

however, in one of ur other vids i took the liberty of watching where two coppers were dealing with a chap on a bike and then came onto your property, i thought were very rude, yes i can understand why they would question why you are filming them, however the way the spoke and reacted when they found out you were not in the wrong (walking off without so much as an apology) was somewhat.

i will say however... which im bound to get slated for from someone.... surely they coulda found better things to do with their time than mess about with someone who clearly has nothing better to do with themselves :P

if u want us on your side, go film the coppers hiding behind a bush with their speed camera and claim that you are doing only what they are doing, this would be worthwhile viewing

oh hark arent the policre brilliant !!!!well in fact know there not !!!.look at the police league tables Cambridgershire is near the bottom .the three occasions that i personally have asked plice for heip they have done fuck all .
Observer police performance tables: the overall rankings
Rank Police force
1 Suffolk
2 Durham
3 Gloucester
4 Dyfed, Powys
5 Northumbria
6 Hampshire
7 Northamptonshire
8 Kent
9 North Wales
10 City of London
11 Cumbria
12 Gwent
13 Leicestershire
14 Derbyshire
15 Lancashire
16 Humberside
17 Wiltshire
18 West Yorkshire
19 Devon and Cornwall
20 Bedfordshire
21 West Midlands
22 West Mercia
23 North Yorkshire
24 Warwickshire
25 Merseyside
26 South Wales
27 South Yorkshire
28 Essex
29 Dorset
30 Norfolk
31 Cleveland
32 Thames Valley
33 Nottinghamshire
34 Surrey
35 Sussex
36 Cambridgeshire
37 Avon and Somerset
38 Cheshire
39 Lincolnshire
40 Hertfordshire
41 Staffordshire
42 Metropolitan Police
43 Greater Manchester
'
pretty bad don't you think .thank god someones watching .

i do wish hed been there when they arrested me in peterborough, i was doing them a favour strangely enough!

I will say however... which im bound to get slated for from someone.... surely they coulda found better things to do with their time than mess about with someone who clearly has nothing better to do with themselves

Not slated, but a police officer wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't attempt to investigate things that appeared to be suspicious, and an individual filming randoms that obviously aren't related does appear dodgy, even if there's innocent intent. If I was filming the general public for some kind of art project, I'd expect the police to ask me what I was doing if they saw me, and wouldn't get all uppity and righteous over it.

That said, I did watch that video, and they probably didn't handle it the best way, but y'know, asking what the guy was doing filming them seems fair enough.

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my point excatly,plus i wonder if they`re cop shop finishes at 22:00

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their, you mean.....you are so pickity .
as for the rest ....bollocks people regularly go to the police station after 10 to report being beaten up or threatened only to be told to come back tomorrow .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooarT3cn8_o

very clever

what would happen if they did go on your property and you were like 'oi, get off' you cant do shit, that annoys me. the worst type of copper is the one who nicks you for swearing. the type who talks to you like you are an utter retard, then when you get angry at being spoken to like a complete tool and maybe mutter, 'oh just fuck off' you get arrested for just swearing 'around a policeman' not even at them. that time of police man is a competely sexually frustrated fucker and i cant stand the site of them.

otherwise im very pro police, but these total and utter fuck melons let them all down.

point made.

had to be done.

sorry.

my god i sound like a bellend and my swearings and spelling is shameful...but still. job done...im outa here

; )

i dont like the coppers when you try and have a two way conversation about something, and they cut you off, and if you keep enquiring u get in more trouble... whats with that?

"oh hark arent the policre brilliant !!!!well in fact know there not !!!.look at the police league tables Cambridgershire is near the bottom .the three occasions that i personally have asked plice for heip they have done fuck all ."

I'll happily admit that the police (Cambridge in particular) are in many ways pretty crappy. But what I don't believe is that rather being down to good old fashioned (and as a result, quite dull) incompetence, it's because they're simply pawns of some bunch of sinister masonic puppetmasters. And I very much doubt that the performance of the Cambridge force is going to be improved one iota by "documentaries" such as the one that's provoked this debate.
In addition, the suggestions (accusations would be too strong a word to use to describe such vague and frankly pointless witterings) being made about the police in this thread have little, if any relevence whatsoever to the Observers league table anyway.

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Were the police always as stupid as they are now? So many of them are just Chavs on power trips (funny how many young copper have ginger hair, spots and are unable to grow a beard) but there you go. I love the police teams who walk up and down Trinity Street stopping cyclists and giving them lectures on the one way system... if only they'd put them on the evening shift then they could maybe lecture people on the patheticness of smashing glass all over the city centre. Monday morning the broken glass situation was incredible... no doubt a bunch of drunken thickbreeds being brave. Tis funny, you can smash glass in the street, abuse passers by, be racist, sexist and anti-social to the max, throw up in shop doorways, start fights... that's fine, you are free to go. But cycle the wrong way down a one way street and oh my God... you are, in the world of Halford; "Breaking the law!!" and thus have to be punished accordingly.

It's Cambridge though, as soon as the tourists and the students are off the streets the cops turn in too... skeleton crew to deal with the scum and the aggro in the small hours.

"Dead cops, dead cops, down on the street giving poor the heat, hunting for queers, niggers and you... dead cops dead cops" (Million of Dead Cops / MDC)

So cycling the wrong way down a one way street doesn't count as being "anti-social" then aba?

Oh yes, I don't do it, most days I cycle down Kings Parade and then get off and walk up to the Round Church. I do actually have a strong opinion on shit cyclists... but when I see a Japanesesgirl poodling along the street and then reprimanded by two police officers... it's just over the top. I have a bigger problem with the vans doing over 20mph down a busy street the right way. There are plans to make these roads "both way" to cyclists...

The signage is appalling going into St.John's Street from King's Parade. I wouldn't expect anyone to notice it whilst cycling towards it.

What the fucks having ginger hair got to do with it...theres no need to go there dude. You were making a fine point then you went all hairest on my arse, then you lost me. ; ) Most policeman working the saturday night type shifts must be the 'short strawers'. No wants wants to do it surely. They see it all the time, same shit, sober as fuck and everyone wonders why they are so arsey! Throw a freezing cold winter shift into the mix and its enough to make you feel militant.
Trouble is policeman are just normal people, we need robocop.

What the fucks having ginger hair got to do with it...theres no need to go there dude. You were making a fine point then you went all hairest on my arse, then you lost me.

Are you a ginge, Floyd?

"Trouble is policeman are just normal people"

Yep, with uniforms, a ton of attitude, racist/bigoted viewpoints usually, power hungry, ego-maniacal tendencies and they never question what they're told and they are usually pretty damned clueless in terms of anything.

OK, normal is correct. I bet they're all so down to earth they watch East Enders and everything... yep, the beautiful ones.

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I was going to keep out of this thing but..............

A few years ago I was pulled over by the police twice in one night. The first copper was very nice and just told me one of my rear lights was out, and could I make sure I get it fixed as soon as possible. That, I think is the real way to deal with people he was an old school type policeman where he would give the kids a clip round the ear and say 'do that again and I'll tell your dad'.

Later on the same evening I was pulled over again. This time by a young officer, you know the type, cockey, arsey and playing the big I am.
He almost draged me out the my car pushed me to the floor. He asked, or should that be demanded, have I been drinking? Which I had so I get to have a good blow, the test came up amber which ment I had been drinking but was under the limit.
Now he's a bit put out because he couldn't get me on the d'n'd. So he goes around the car trying to get me on something else, I pointed out that on of his fellow officers had told me I had a back light out. He didn't take this to well and tried all the harder to find something more when he didn't, he suddenly says 'I know you don't I'.
I knew him the moment I saw him he was my sisters boyfriend I'd only saw him 24 hours before. The cunt.

As for Mr Pollard......